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What if ‘Watchmen’ Sucks?

People seem to be ignoring this possibility

Patrick Wilson, Malin Akerman and Jackie Earle Haley in Watchmen
Photo: Warner Bros.

Now don’t get me wrong with that headline, I want Watchmen to be phenomenal just like the rest of you, but with all the talk it is hard to wonder what it will be like if the movie just isn’t any good.

Over at SCI-FI they have up a new interview with director Zack Snyder and his wife Deborah (producer) where they talk about how the film has now been shortened slightly from the previously reported 2 hours and 43 minutes. “We’re at two hours and 35 minutes,” Deborah told the site.

Zack added, “The movie’s pretty long … compared to 300, which was an hour and 58 minutes. The director’s cut [of Watchmen] is about three hours and 10 minutes long. It has even more than the theatrical version as far as the detail that gets even closer to the graphic novel.”

But things don’t end there, “The Black Freighter version of the movie that we’re working on–which has the ins and outs of the Black Freighter comic book woven through it, with an animated version of the Black Freighter–will be about three hours and 40 minutes,” Zack said. “So there’s a huge epic version of Watchmen, which will probably come out after the movie’s theatrical release, for hardcore [fans].”

We already knew this last tidbit as it has been revealed Warner Bros. is already in the stages of prepping a triple-dip DVD/Blu-ray release with a variety of cuts and special goodies to keep consumers coming back. On top of that there will be the video game, I assume toys and a variety of other marketing tie-ins. However, I can’t help but remember how it has taken two decades to get this film made because there wasn’t anyone that seemed to be able to get it right. A mild stir was started online when word that the ending had been changed made the rounds proving loyal followers don’t want a single thing changed.

Tonight I also noticed over at SlashFilm, Peter Sciretta has a commentary up asking why the “epic” version is going to be relegated to home video. “Why doesn’t Warner Bros hold theatrical digital screenings of the ‘Epic Version’ in a handful of the major cities after the film has been in theaters for a month or so?” he asks. It’s a valid question, but I can’t help but wonder what folks will be saying if Watchmen hits with a relative ho-hum or, heaven forbid, a resounding thud. Will they still want to go see it again? Hell, what if it never hits at all? Or at least not on March 6.

Am Law Daily has up a story that takes a look at the current lawsuit over the film between Warner Bros. and 20th Century Fox in which they say they have “never read two motions for summary judgment as different as those filed by legal teams for Warner Bros. and 20th Century Fox.”

The two sides filed their motions Tuesday, and the suit will come to a head during a hearing on Dec. 15 - a hearing that could derail the unveiling of a movie that comic book geeks have waited two decades for.

The two sides take very different strategies in their motions filed this week. Warners comes out firing, saying Fox, even if it did once own a right of first refusal, gave it up by not exercising it for more than a decade while three different studios batted around possible Watchmen projects. They characterize Fox’s suit as a last-minute attempt to attach itself to a film that looks like it will be a hit. But later in their motion, the studio says it’s willing to accept a partial summary judgment ruling. What that means is unclear; it could mean that Fox will end up with a percentage of distribution rights or that Warners will pay Fox an unknown amount to secure full rights to the movie.

Fox, on the other hand, is going for a home run. They ask for nothing less than the sole right to produce Watchmen and distribute it in the U.S. and abroad.

I really can’t imagine the backlash Fox would suffer from fanboys should this lawsuit end up delaying the release of Watchmen. Personally I don’t think that will ever happen and expect some deal will be reached, but just imagine. Would fans boycott X-Men Origins: Wolverine as a result? Fox certainly isn’t in the highest of favors after a rather dismal 2008 and the last thing they need is a reason for the vocal fanbase to get really upset.

Obviously I offer up this article as a devil’s advocate kind of deal, but it is just starting to seem like all the hype is building up for a major let down. On top of that a triple-dip DVD/Blu-ray is certainly a task of putting all the eggs in a basket and hoping every single one of them hatch. Then again, I remember recently telling someone how stupid the majority of the collector’s edition DVD sets actually are as they only supply you with more cardboard than you had before, but whatever the biggest package for Watchmen is, that will be the one I want if the movie turns out to be as good as I hope it will be.

I guess I too am setting myself up to potentially be my own personal victim. Oh well, I guess that’s the price of high expectations and unabashed anticipation. We have just over three months left before we find out.

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Warners is taking a Goldie Locks approach. If the theatrical is too cold and the Black Freighter is too hot then maybe the director’s cut is just right. At least Warners is informing us of multiple releases before we put any money down and giving us the option to own whichever copy we like best. I’m still waiting for the Kill Bill director’s cut or even a Grindhouse theatrical.

- GregM
( December 3rd, 2008 | 9:10 am )
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I don’t know,man…all the promo stuff that I had seen up to now wasn’t too impressive to me, but I just watched the second trailer posted on apple.com, and it changed my opinion for the better. It looks like at the very least, they’re treating the source material with respect, aside from, you know, trying to make it into a two hour movie in the first place…

- Owen E
( December 3rd, 2008 | 10:02 am )
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Just going by the two trailers I would bet the avg moviegoer is not excited about the film. Fanboys, there estatic but the avg person who goes to the movies once a month and sees the trailer will not jump up and say that looks great can’t wait to see it. Im not saying this is the next Snakes on a Plane but it could be! For me the Trailer is really interesting but its NOT overly compelling!

Chuck

- entertainmentodayandbeyond
( December 3rd, 2008 | 11:23 am )
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The Graphic novel is by far one of my favorite novels of all time (granted alot of people say that but it is true). After The Dark Knight alot of people were happy to hear the “unfilmable” Watchmen was being prepped for filming i was excited once again granted so was alot of people but then i heard they were changing the ending and my chemical romance (the sordid emo dicks) were covering Bob Dylan’s Desolation Row…… I really hope that for the sake of the die hard fans and for his reputation Snyder is able to present a fucking masterpiece.

- LJ
( December 3rd, 2008 | 1:26 pm )
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I’m not ignoring this fact. Dawn of the dead and 300 were good nothing special, and watchmen is work of art, far more complicated than most movies can be. So it could suck big time, or be okay with some great moments from the BOOK as you expect them, but i dont think it’ll knock my socks off. Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons did that already, but time will tell and here’s hoping.
Not long now

- Aly
( December 3rd, 2008 | 4:42 pm )
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if those yag (think soft J) offs cover desolation row it will ruin the entire movie and i wont go see it.

- movie jerk
( December 3rd, 2008 | 4:44 pm )
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The potential for suck is there, as with any movie, but I think it’s small. I think the greater danger is making an inaccessible movie that only fans will want to see. If that’s the case, it will still cause box office trouble, but not on the same scale as if the movie was just flat out bad.

While it’s impossible to speak to the movie’s plot or acting, at the very least we can be assured of a visually stunning film. I’ll be happy with that.

- aerinpegadrak
( December 3rd, 2008 | 9:05 pm )
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I gotta admit, despite my adoration for Alan Moore’s fascinating take on Superheroes, my expectations are still pretty low for this film. I “liked” trailer; however, I wasn’t exactly blown away (such as the way I felt after seeing the first trailer for “300″ or “The Matrix”).

The film may suck…the world will go on. “The Leage of Extraordinary Gentlemen” was a complete bomb (a tragedy considering how amazing the comic was); oh well. While it is always a shame to see great works of fiction or biopics get destroyed on the big screen [LOEG, The Punisher (1989), War & Peace (1964), Alexander, The Messenger]; there are always plenty of great adaptations to cheer for. Sometimes horrible or merely okay source material gets turned into great films…the world somehow continue spinning.

Note: If Lord of the Rings had sucked, I’m not sure how I would have survived…….
DON’T LET ME DOWN GUILLERMO!!!!

- Josh
( December 5th, 2008 | 3:30 am )
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I believe that this movie is going to be a graphic novel on film……. What could possibly be better???

- Little sister
( December 6th, 2008 | 9:19 pm )
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i don’t think watchmen is gonna suck so brad you shouldn’t have to worry and by the way

@entertainmenttodayandbeyond fanboys is gonna be really funny so don’t judge a book by it’s cover

- Justin Casey
( December 7th, 2008 | 7:01 pm )
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@entertainmentodayandbeyond: i think fanboys is gonna be really funny so don’t judge a book by it’s cover

- Justin Casey
( December 7th, 2008 | 7:16 pm )
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and by the way this gonna be nothing like snakes on a plane and snakes was not that bad

- Justin Casey
( December 7th, 2008 | 7:18 pm )
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